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Limbaugh: The Idea That Police, Teachers, And Firefighters Contribute To Economic Growth Is "Ignorance ... 101"

June 11, 2012 2:44 pm ET

From the June 11 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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Fox Disappears Romney's Attack On Teacher, Firefighter, And Police Hiring

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 11, 2012 2:46 pm ET)
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      next time you have a heart attack, we will just let you lay there and wither away.
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      • Author by Tony195616 (June 11, 2012 3:20 pm ET)
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        No, he needs to live longer so he can say more ignorant & hateful things to hang around Romney's neck. If Limpy & Empty Suit Mitt really understood the economy they would know it is consumer-based. Teachers, firefighters & police buying goods & services and paying taxes helps the economy. Dead weights like Romney & Limpy do not.
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      • Author by Soulfader72 (June 11, 2012 3:30 pm ET)
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        Yeah, instead of calling the cops the next time he receives a mysterious package, he can call Bain capital.
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        • Author by papa bear3 (June 11, 2012 4:42 pm ET)
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          . . .in the coming Romney age of Economic Feudalism his security team will handle the whole event
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      • Author by David2012 (June 11, 2012 5:24 pm ET)
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        God, if you are there, can't you, just this one time, have lightning strike the Limbaugh house and start a teeny weeny fire, not big enough to hurt anybody, and not even big enough to do any serious damage as long as it is put out right away when the fire department comes?

        If the fire department comes.
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 11, 2012 9:14 pm ET)
           
        No just let the ignoramus prattle on. He is completely illiterate what it comes to the work of these public employees. Poor Rush seems to be getting "dingier and dingier" as the days go by. The poor thing is so pitiful and gets worse all the time. Something very sad has happened to him or he never did make sense. But he also lacks any self insight that would help him correct his silliness. I have a 7 year old great grandchild that thinks he is a comedy act. I mean Verne laughs and laughs when "that great big guy" is on and says it is like watching a cartoon act where the guy is about to explode with "getting mad".
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 11, 2012 9:14 pm ET)
           
        No just let the ignoramus prattle on. He is completely illiterate what it comes to the work of these public employees. Poor Rush seems to be getting "dingier and dingier" as the days go by. The poor thing is so pitiful and gets worse all the time. Something very sad has happened to him or he never did make sense. But he also lacks any self insight that would help him correct his silliness. I have a 7 year old great grandchild that thinks he is a comedy act. I mean Verne laughs and laughs when "that great big guy" is on and says it is like watching a cartoon act where the guy is about to explode with "getting mad".
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 11, 2012 11:55 pm ET)
           
        Limpbaugh's big problem is that he is a master at projection. All he produces is hot air, stupidity, racism and hate. The poor guy has a lot to answer for. His disgusting life style, his big mouth and his hate speech. And the most ignorant thing he keeps repeating is his silliness about his anti government blab, unless of course, the guy in charge comes from our Republican Party. He always puts his worst foot forward and keeps piling on after that. The poor thing is just so pitiful!
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 11, 2012 11:55 pm ET)
           
        Limpbaugh's big problem is that he is a master at projection. All he produces is hot air, stupidity, racism and hate. The poor guy has a lot to answer for. His disgusting life style, his big mouth and his hate speech. And the most ignorant thing he keeps repeating is his silliness about his anti government blab, unless of course, the guy in charge comes from our Republican Party. He always puts his worst foot forward and keeps piling on after that. The poor thing is just so pitiful!
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    • Author by Karma (June 11, 2012 2:53 pm ET)
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      What the Hell!!!!
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    • Author by GBU-15 (June 11, 2012 2:54 pm ET)
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      Well Fatboy! I must admit our educational system was a complete failure for you. But you better pray to God that if you need a cop someone is their to answer the call! And I for one would not be heartbroken if your plush mansion burned to the ground! As I said before working people. Your labor is not apprecited by the rich! The "entitled" rich believe that they are the only ones in society who contribute anything of value. Your efforts as mere "workers" are worthless. And in effect you are worthless! If working people don't get this message and act on it. We will hand the rich the rope to hang us with.
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    • Author by pilotshark (June 11, 2012 2:54 pm ET)
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      "Teachers Builds Lifes, Police Protect Lifes, Firefights Saves Lifes!"

      Romney and the teapublicans RUIN Lifes!
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (June 11, 2012 3:01 pm ET)
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        Agree but tell me how many jobs did they create?

        Teachers train, not hire
        Police protect, not hire
        Firefighter save lives, not hire

        Their jobs are overhead, much needed but unless you have private sector jobs to cover the cost you can not hire them.
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        • Author by BobsYourUncle (June 11, 2012 3:06 pm ET)
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          well they probably buy goods at local stores so all in they probably keep a few thousand people employed.
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        • Author by mcbane (June 11, 2012 3:07 pm ET)
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          Ah, but do they (teachers, cops, and firefighters)contribute to economic growth?
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 3:49 pm ET)
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            Hey, no fair asking a question that honestly relates to the original statement by Lispy ! marky wanted to ask a completely different stupid question! I swear, you're like an owl.

            But as long as I'm here-

            Teachers: textbook publishers, manufacturers of pencils, dry erase boards and rulers, car salesman, grocers, shoe stores...

            Firemen: Fire engine builders, hose manufacturers, pole makers, mustache wax companies, suspender-makers, bootsmiths, helmetteries...

            Policemen: baton makers, mustache wax companies (again), siren makers, handcuff manufacturers, donut makers,uniform companies...

            Just for starters, as far as the jobs they create.
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            • Author by aturingtest (June 11, 2012 3:56 pm ET)
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              AK: "mustache wax companies"
              LOFL!
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            • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 3:56 pm ET)
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              Firearms.
              Turnout Gear.
              Hooks.
              Ladders.
              Notebooks (kids need notebooks).
              Pens.
              Food Suppliers (school lunches).

              And so on, and so forth...
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (June 11, 2012 3:58 pm ET)
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              Policemen: baton makers, mustache wax companies (again), siren makers, handcuff manufacturers, donut makers,uniform companies...
              Can't forget the go to weapon these days, the tazer.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 4:05 pm ET)
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                Thanx, Bro.
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                • Author by Old_Benjamin (June 11, 2012 4:12 pm ET)
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                  No problem.
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                • Author by pilotshark (June 11, 2012 4:30 pm ET)
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                  or pepper spray
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                  • Author by Old_Benjamin (June 11, 2012 4:35 pm ET)
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                    or pepper spray
                    I stayed away from that one for fear of raising dave to talk about how he gets off watching people being tortured with the stuff.
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                    • Author by montanabuddha (June 11, 2012 4:41 pm ET)
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                      Amazing how pepper spray has evolved from a defensive weapon to an attack weapon.
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                      • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 4:43 pm ET)
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                        It's evolved even further at Fox news, to a condiment.
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                      • Author by Old_Benjamin (June 11, 2012 4:50 pm ET)
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                        Tazers & pepper spray were meant as "less than lethal" ways to stop somone from seriously harming or killing someone. The cops have naturally started to use it as a way to force compliance to their commands. Or in some cases, as punishment for not following the their commands.
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                        • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 5:01 pm ET)
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                          I can understand it, if those people are being threatening towards the law enforcement officer, but if like on the infamous video we've seen of the protesters being washed down in the stuff, they were just sitting there. Not threatening. Not really doing anything except, well, sitting there. No need for it then.
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                • Author by dazednamused (June 11, 2012 9:11 pm ET)
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                  Love the "Don't taze me, bro" reference, Andy. Well done.
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            • Author by Chameo (June 11, 2012 5:11 pm ET)
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              You only count as a job creator if you sign someone's paycheck. If all you do is provide the money that actually PAYS those checks, you're not even part of the equation.
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        • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™ł˛®© (June 11, 2012 3:08 pm ET)
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          You have a teabagger's understanding of what "investment" means, markbfoot199.

          And by that, I mean no understanding whatsoever.
          ~
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        • Author by Dem02020 (June 11, 2012 3:10 pm ET)
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          You actually think that the police and teachers and firefighters are supposed to create jobs?

          Think much?

          Born Yesterday?

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        • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 3:12 pm ET)
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          Umm... Said teachers, police, and firefighters all get paid. They spend that money in their local, and national economies, and hence, grow the economies, since we, the United States of America, are a consumer economy and society.

          You really have no idea how these things work do you?

          Plus...

          Schools hire teachers.
          Towns and States hire police officers/troopers.
          Towns hire firefighters.
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          • Author by BDA (June 11, 2012 4:13 pm ET)
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            In my town of 150,000 the school district is the single largest employer in the city. The city itself is the second largest employer.

            In a corporatist utopia, they could lay off all those people and save hundreds of millions in tax dollars.

            We would be a ghost town within weeks as families and businesses fled like the plague but the ones that stay would have really low taxes.
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            • Author by The_Cat (June 11, 2012 9:35 pm ET)
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              We would be a ghost town within weeks as families and businesses fled like the plague but the ones that stay would have really low taxes.

              Not to mention really low property values, and really low employment numbers, BDA. Plus, it would only work for a little while. Eventually, the streets would need repaired, and that's something the 'private sector' will never get around to. Or, something would catch on fire. Probably one of the thousands of unused and unsellable homes. Who will put it out? Or, some fairly intelligent criminals will realize the community is now just a tiny handful of individuals and take the place over. Who will stop them?

              At some point, doesn't America have to look at the entirety of the right wing and just do a massive double-take?
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        • Author by ccreadme (June 11, 2012 3:15 pm ET)
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          Hey foot-in-your-mouth:

          Safe neighborhoods, protected by a highly trained police force, watched by professional fire fighters and a community educated by competent teachers seems to me to be the perfect place to start a successful business.

          Think, man.
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          • Author by Evangelical Democrat (June 12, 2012 2:07 pm ET)
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            Idiots (and by that I mean Tea Party supporters and conservatives as a whole) can't think.
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        • Author by shaggles (June 11, 2012 3:18 pm ET)
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          Consumers create jobs. All they have to do is spend their paychecks to create jobs.
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        • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 3:30 pm ET)
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          In addition to their very important contributions to society:

          Teachers spend money
          Police spend money
          Firefighters spend money.

          They all contribute to economic growth by purchasing consumer goods and putting money into the stream of commerce.

          You're an idiot.
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        • Author by confer (June 11, 2012 3:38 pm ET)
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          markbfoot199,

          Not sure what Limbaugh's point is, but if yours is that only people who actually hire contribute to economic growth, I don't agree with that all. As others have said, anyone who is employed and recirculates their earnings back into the economy all contribute to economic growth, by its very definition.
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        • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (June 11, 2012 3:38 pm ET)
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          "Agree but tell me how many jobs did they create?"

          who ever said they created jobs? Way to buy into a false narrative!

          good little dittohead.
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        • Author by worrierking (June 11, 2012 3:46 pm ET)
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          They create jobs by purchasing groceries, clothing, cars, energy and services. That's how jobs are created, by demand, not by some beatific wealthy person.
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          • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 3:50 pm ET)
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            Exactly. We should use this as a motto.

            WE ARE ALL JOB CREATORS! As long as we spend our money and paychecks locally and nationally, and heck, even internationally. Although, I try to buy and shop locally as much as possible to keep my money in and around the town that I live in.
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        • Author by dogbreath (June 11, 2012 3:55 pm ET)
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          I would say that teachers, while they themselves don't hire, are certainly responsible for a good chunk of the hiring that goes on within a nation. No education, no job. End of story.
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        • Author by 1949vet (June 11, 2012 3:59 pm ET)
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          Public school teachers train students--many of whom become successful business owners who hire people. Police and fire-fighters help make commercial areas safe for businesses, and those prosperous businesses will hire more workers as a result.
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        • Author by pete592 (June 11, 2012 4:02 pm ET)
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          I thought the gist of the argument was contribution to economic growth, not "job creation."
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          • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 4:08 pm ET)
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            markbfoot is very easily confused. He picked up these talking points from another site and thought they sounded good.
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            • Author by wenfen (June 11, 2012 5:14 pm ET)
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              Yes, he is. And just where did mark go, anyway? I imagine he dropped his little nugget of ignorance and ran away like all the good little trolls do around here.

              No guts. Typical.
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              • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 5:20 pm ET)
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                Pretty sure he didn't think it through before he posted it and didn't realize how completely idiotic it sounded.
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        • Author by pete592 (June 11, 2012 4:03 pm ET)
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          Clear Channel laid off thousands after they gave Limbaugh a $400 million contract. What a great job creator he is.
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        • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 5:21 pm ET)
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          Teachers, police, and firefighters do indeed create jobs.
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          • Author by Bronwyn (June 11, 2012 5:35 pm ET)
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            Way off topic, sorry, but I'm about to burst!

            OMG,OMG, did you ever call it!!! Union Rags #3 won by a nose. I went a head for fun and placed a bet and made $650.00 bucks. THANK YOU VERY MUCH! My family and friends are feigning contempt "Even on a lark she wins." LOL! I tried to get them to place just a small bet, I had an eerie hunch. You the Man Dan. Hey, that sounds like a good name for a race horse.;>)
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            • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 5:40 pm ET)
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              Wait, what?
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            • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 5:51 pm ET)
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              So, want my Paypal so I can be sent 50% of the winnings? ;)
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              • Author by Bronwyn (June 11, 2012 6:16 pm ET)
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                Hey, I would assume anyone as attuned to horse racing as you, would have placed your own bet. ;>)
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                • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 6:39 pm ET)
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                  Let's see if I can go 2 for 2!

                  #4 by a horse-length.
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            • Author by wenfen (June 11, 2012 5:56 pm ET)
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              Way to go Bronwyn!! WooHoo!!
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              • Author by Bronwyn (June 11, 2012 6:20 pm ET)
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                Thanks, it was a real hoot. I thought Daniel would have placed small bet as well, on a lark. It is one of those surreal experiences.
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                • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 6:24 pm ET)
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                  I don't even follow horse races. I was just snarking on Futurama. :)
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                  • Author by Bronwyn (June 11, 2012 6:30 pm ET)
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                    I knew that. That's why it was so funny or fun. It did give us all a great laugh, or a "CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?" moment.
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                • Author by wenfen (June 11, 2012 11:53 pm ET)
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                  So great!
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        • Author by SMTDL (June 12, 2012 11:08 am ET)
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          They,like all consumers create demand when they buy goods and services.Whether they are private or public doesn't matter.More people working at a living wage will help the economy.No one creates jobs except the Government and Businesses,but if we want less unemployment,more people need to work in both SECTORS.
          Ask all the State and Federal Legislators if we should reduce their numbers,medical insurance and retirement benefits?Shouldn't they have done this as well as take more pay cuts/staff reductions?After all,most union employess have done all that and they still are being demonized.
          HYPOCRITES!!!
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        • Author by chazmanr (June 12, 2012 2:04 pm ET)
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          Teachers, police and firefighters have to eat, house and cloth themselves. Of course they create jobs. Just you and I create jobs. Jobs are created by demand for goods and services. Not, because it is the ethically correct thing for a business to do. Businesses only add jobs when demand requires it.

          This is the problem with those of you on the right. You lack depth. You can't look beyond the surface. Teachers don't directly hire people, therefore they don't create jobs. Simplistic claptrap. Did any of you take an economics course at any point in your life?!
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    • Author by Chief Bromden (June 11, 2012 2:55 pm ET)
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      No, Rush. You and your Fox Noise/Clear Channel Tealiban parrots are Ignorance 101.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (June 11, 2012 3:04 pm ET)
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      Next thing you know, he's going to be making fun of the people who ask him if he wants fries with his burger...
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (June 11, 2012 3:06 pm ET)
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      And he would know, ignorance is what Cmdr Pill Popper excells at
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      • Author by montanabuddha (June 11, 2012 3:18 pm ET)
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        Rush teachs a master class/w lab....Ignorance 404.

        Graduate studies available.
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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™ł˛®© (June 11, 2012 3:06 pm ET)
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      Overpaid, flatulent college dropouts on Hate Radio, on the other hand...
      ~
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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 11, 2012 3:07 pm ET)
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      Limbaugh: The Idea That Police, Teachers, And Firefighters Contribute To Economic Growth Is "Ignorance 101"

      I refuse to listen to this guy's voice, so I can only guess what he means by the above quote.

      I think he means that no one makes a financial profit off of the services provided by police and teachers and firefighters, I think that's his narrow and exclusive definition of "economic growth", that it means profits, and so therefore where there is no financial profit there is no economic growth, according to rush limbaugh.

      What a blind and greedy antisocial pig that guy is, not to see how much growth and profit we all gain from the work of police officers and teachers and firefighters... but because it's not the kind of growth and profit you can stuff under your mattress or hide away in an offshore tax-evading bank account, then it's not growth according to rush limbaugh.

      If it's not money, it's not anything he or his kind care about.

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    • Author by Karma (June 11, 2012 3:10 pm ET)
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      I had a neighbor who works in education and listens to Rush religiously. I wonder what she thinks about this comment.
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      • Author by dogbreath (June 11, 2012 3:58 pm ET)
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        Nothing. She won't think it applies to her for some reason or another.
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        • Author by politeradical (June 11, 2012 5:26 pm ET)
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          Dittohead cognitive dissonance at its finest.
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        • Author by Karma (June 11, 2012 5:36 pm ET)
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          I know. She seemed like a smart lady.

          Master's in Education.

          I lost all respect for her when I found out she was a Rush devotee.

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      • Author by dogbreath (June 11, 2012 3:59 pm ET)
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        Nothing. She won't think it applies to her for some reason or another.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (June 11, 2012 4:08 pm ET)
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        A lot of the teachers I have known are dyed in the wool Conservatives. I snicker every time I read the accusations of Liberal bias in education. They have never spent much time in a faculty room.
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        • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 6:02 pm ET)
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          Ah, but what these conservative teachers have to do is to teach facts and facts, as we all know, have a liberal bias.
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    • Author by Spooky Dooooooooood (June 11, 2012 3:15 pm ET)
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      You people just don't get it. An example of a worthwhile private sector employee would be the person Rush paid to buy Oxycontin for him. No nanny state money was used to pay that person. Rush created that job.
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      • Author by jeffnky (June 11, 2012 3:52 pm ET)
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        Don't forget the real winners, Rush's attorney who kept him out of jail. That check should have been huge.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 5:46 pm ET)
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          Remember, the ACLU supported him on that one too. Ironic no?
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    • Author by shaggles (June 11, 2012 3:16 pm ET)
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      Sure. Who needs consumers in a market based economy?
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (June 11, 2012 3:25 pm ET)
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        That's the point that is ALWAYS lost on the nutjobs. Teachers/firemen/cops are middle class citizens who spend nearly ALL of their money on housing, food, raising children, etc.
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    • Author by GBU-15 (June 11, 2012 3:21 pm ET)
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      Police and firefighters jobs are overhead? Look stupid. They provide security. They make a safe environment for business to flourish in. Teachers educate the future workers and managers and yes even owners of future business. They in effect till the soil for business to grow. I am using these analogies so even mouth-breathing knuckleheads can understand. People like you don't realize society is a system of cooperation among people performing seprate tasks. This is a collective effort. Get it? Socialism 101! If one part of the system breaks down the whole system stops. How does one get so old and still be so stupid?
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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (June 11, 2012 3:21 pm ET)
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      If anyone knows ignorance, it is Dr. Rush Limbaugh, Master of Fear, Ignorance and Bed Wetting.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 11, 2012 3:21 pm ET)
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      Right...

      Becuase who needs education, and law and order to have a productive society, right?!

      And, I mean, SCREW the homeowners, right? That's what INSURANCE if for!

      And it's not like these people every BUY anything!

      (Of course... they MIGHT... if they earned a decent wage!)

      I hope my Right-Wing, Ex-Marine cousin, who's not only a ditto-head, but a BOSTON COP, was listening to that, Rush. I hope he heard what you REALLY think of people like him!

      ------------------------------
      IMHO
      UTOPIA
      POLITICAL SYMMETRY
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    • Author by WilliamP (June 11, 2012 3:26 pm ET)
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      Yeah, an uneducated workforce where people can steal what your business produces is far better than hiring a few more teachers and cops. Keep talking, Rush.
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    • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 3:27 pm ET)
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      So, people who work for a living and who have to purchase consumer goods and put money into the stream of commerce don't contribute to economic growth? Hmmmm . . .
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      • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (June 11, 2012 3:40 pm ET)
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        "So, people who work for a living and who have to purchase consumer goods and put money into the stream of commerce don't contribute to economic growth? Hmmmm . . ."

        Bingo, B! Ignorance 101 is taught by Professor Limbaugh...
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    • Author by AB-001 (June 11, 2012 3:35 pm ET)
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      Well, if my business burns down than there is no economic growth.

      If criminals are allowed to roam free, unafraid of consequences since there is no police enforcement, there is no economic growth.

      If future leaders of this country receive no education, there is no economic growth.
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    • Author by bexwhitt (June 11, 2012 3:35 pm ET)
         
      Limbaugh was probably the fat kid at school who spent more time eating than learning, his ignorance on many things knows no bounds.
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    • Author by Karma (June 11, 2012 3:37 pm ET)
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      I remember when firefighter and policemen were held in such high regards. Patriots and heroes if I remember correctly. What is going on in this country? I guess party over country is most important.

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      • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 3:53 pm ET)
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        It's because the people like Limbaugh are discovering that firemen and policemen, and teachers belong to UNIONS!!!

        Which we all know are inherently evil and gouge the American people for money...
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        • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 5:23 pm ET)
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          Fox News personalities also belong to a union.... Hmmm....
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        • Author by politeradical (June 11, 2012 5:30 pm ET)
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          Which we all know are inherently evil and gouge the American people for money...

          As opposed to those humble and Godly contractors as wingnuts privatize more and more government functions. Grover Norquist's next yacht isn't going to buy itself!
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 4:13 pm ET)
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        The right wing propagandists, and their corporate masters, have been very calculated about dividing the country into some imaginary host/parasite relationship. The reality of the symbiotic, mutually beneficial relationship between the public and private sector can't be acknowledged by them, it gets in the way of their goal of privatizing everything to maximize their short term profits.

        They used to be more careful about excluding police and firefighters from their "makers vs. Takers" fairy tale, but they seem to be comforted by the gullibility of their audience. I suppose the next step is convincing the simpletons that the military are a bunch of freeloaders because they're not creating jobs.

        If you think I'm exaggerating, you must not listen to any righty radio, or read the comments from TeaBagger zombies at websites. They've rally tried to create a simplistic, childish idea that the private sector creates wealth out of nowhere, and the public sector just sucks it away.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 4:18 pm ET)
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          I do believe what you're writing about goes back to the absurd black and white thinking of today's "conservatives". As in, you're either a job creator, or a taker. There is nothing in between. So they fawn and praise the richest amongst us, while denigrating the least fortunate people in our society, and then attempt to trample the middle class (which I would guess 99% or more are part of).

          This of course puts them at odds with, well, themselves. I guarantee almost all of the tea party zombies are middle to lower class, and constantly vote against their best interests so that those poor folks don't get any of their money. Rich oil companies, that's OK though. Take billions upon billions while profiting billions, but a few million to help out some hungry families, those people cannot and shouldn't be helped.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 4:27 pm ET)
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            Remember, when righties drive through a wealthy neighborhood, they say "We'll be moving in next door to you soon!"

            And the 1%ers LOL, and call security.
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            • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 5:03 pm ET)
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              How true that is. Like the infamous "Joe the Plumber" was afraid that the business he said he owned would be highly taxed. Turns out, of course, it wasn't his business, and he wasn't even a plumber.

              It's the whole thinking of, "One day, I'll be filthy rich, and I don't want to pay taxes." mindset that they have. Which, in reality, will some of those folks get rich? Maybe, but probably less than 1% I'd wager.
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              • Author by danielsangeo (June 11, 2012 6:04 pm ET)
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                Y'know, if I ever got to a point that I 'would be highly taxed', I would be tickled pink.

                I don't know what's wrong with these people....
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            • Author by politeradical (June 11, 2012 5:33 pm ET)
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              “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
              -John Steinbeck
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    • Author by jeffnky (June 11, 2012 3:46 pm ET)
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      I just do not understand how quickly teachers became the problem. I listened to 10 minutes of beck in the car today and his rant was that university teachers are the real one percent because they make 100 to 150 thousand a year. He went off on universities getting federal money. Being around the staff and faculty of a university for 20 years I can say that I never once thought they were overpaid. I can't help but think they want to go back in time. Way back.
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      • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 3:54 pm ET)
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        Having a wife who formerly taught at one of the premier universities in North Carolina, I can vouch that they're not making 100-150k/year. MAYBE if they've been teaching for 20 plus years, are tenured, and have a master's degree and a PhD, they MIGHT make that much money.
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      • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 4:00 pm ET)
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        This is the talking point of the day. The hate talkers and Fox are running interference for Romney's huge gaffe about firemen, police and teachers. Huckabee was talking about public school teachers making $100,000+/year. My brother retired from teaching a couple of years ago. He had two bachelor's degrees and a master's degree and got a coaching stipend added to his check. He didn't make anywhere NEAR $100,000. In fact, between him and his wife (also a teacher), they may have made $100,000 together.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 4:05 pm ET)
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          My aunt taught school for almost 50 years by the time she retired.

          She was making a whopping $58k/year.

          I don't know ANY teachers (and there are a lot of them in my family) who have ever made $100k/year.
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          • Author by jeffnky (June 11, 2012 4:11 pm ET)
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            Just heard in the background that a drone crashed and they cost 150 million each. How many teachers is that?
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            • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 4:19 pm ET)
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              Actually, I'd be really surprised if a drone costs $150 million.

              Checking, it appears that a Predator drone runs about $4 million per copy (still not chump change, and could hire a lot of teachers, but far away from the $150 million).
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              • Author by jeffnky (June 11, 2012 4:34 pm ET)
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                I thought that sounded high, I heard it on CNN and they even asked the reporter if he was sure they cost that much.
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                • Author by magnolialover (June 11, 2012 5:04 pm ET)
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                  Yeah, an F-22 Raptor I think runs about $200 million per aircraft, so, chances of a drone being close to that, is remote at best.
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                  • Author by jeffnky (June 13, 2012 1:22 pm ET)
                       
                    Wow, those things do cost way too much, this one cost 176 million according to the navy.

                    Your text to link here...
                    from USA today

                    The remotely piloted RQ-4A Global Hawk was on a routine training flight from Naval Air Station Patuxent River when it crashed just after noon near Salisbury, Md., said a spokeswoman for the Unmanned Aviation and Strike Weapons Program at the base, CNN reports.

                    The aircraft crashed into a tributary of the Nanticoke River, the Coast Guard said.

                    The drone has a 116-foot wingspan, weighs 25,600 pounds and cost $176 million.

                    Still no word on what caused the crash.
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      • Author by jeffnky (June 11, 2012 4:07 pm ET)
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        When I reread my post that thought hit me too, this must be today's talking points memo. What are their supporters going to think, I would guess that the majority of police and fire workers in my area are proud registered republicans.
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    • Author by PastyJournalist (June 11, 2012 3:58 pm ET)
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      Here's some economics for you, Rush -
      We desperately need high-skilled workers in the work force to grow our economy. Who produces these high-skilled workers? Teachers are arguably our most successful "job creators" out there.

      As for businesses, they tend to love security. If they know that if their building is on fire, someone will put it out - or if the area is reasonably protected by police, they'll be far more likely to set up shop in that area. Don't believe me, try comparing the number of successful (non-illegal) companies operating in a lawless region vs. those operating in a stable (read police presence) area.

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    • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 11, 2012 3:59 pm ET)
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      A key element that republicans always talk about is "stability". They claim business will not invest because they feel the time or situation is "unstable".

      Police, judges, teachers, doctors and firefighterss are the foundational cornerstone of a "stable" society. These groups help insure that soceity functions, that people and bussiness and property are safe. They help provide a workforce that can read, problem solve and innovate.

      Mr Limbuagh dreams of the days of yore, the Gilded Age. When you could buy a policeman to beat a worker, or send a kid down the mines becaue his family owed money to the company store.

      " Please, Mister Limbaugh Jimmy got the consumption and he can't go in the mine no more"

      " I don't care, send his brother down with him. You owe me $3 dollars for that hammer and pick, that means you gotta work for 2 weeks"

      Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia are examples of an unstable society.

      Mr Limbaugh wants America to failbecause he will get richer. We all know that unregulated capitalism ends in monopolies.Essentially, we have socialism for the rich. They get to keep profits and get baillouts while the common folk get free market collapses and debt from the bailling out the rich.
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    • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 11, 2012 4:00 pm ET)
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      We all know that having income to spend adds to the economy. Less crime keeps costs down, better education makes for innovation.

      Mr Limbaugh is no economist...Even Milton Friendman wouldhave laughed at his statement.
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      • Author by nerzog (June 11, 2012 4:04 pm ET)
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        Of course, but Blimpy and the Troglodytes cannot admit that simple truth, because they'd subsequently have to admit that Food Stamps and Welfare can help stimulate the economy. They'd rather eat glass than admit such heresy.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 11, 2012 4:02 pm ET)
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      Here's a little thought exercise for Blimpy and his droolers. Okay, I know it's wasted on them, but I'll toss it out there anyway.

      Set up two parallel societies. But all the Billionaire "Job Creators" in one, and all the middle class consumers in the other. Which one will thrive?

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      • Author by montanabuddha (June 11, 2012 4:05 pm ET)
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        Whoa there zog....who do you think you are Ayn Rand
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      • Author by DAWUSS (June 11, 2012 4:11 pm ET)
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        Unless they merge, neither.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 11, 2012 4:23 pm ET)
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        There were workers and jobs way before there were any rich people. Pretty obvious which one creates the other.

        My favorite dopey right wing question ( that they all think is brilliant): Did a poor person ever give you a job?

        Putting aside that nobody ever gave me a job, I had to earn them or fight for them, I have worked for poor people. In my younger days, I worked for some contractors who could barely pay me some weeks.

        And around that same time, I hired some people when I was not just "poor", but my net worth was probably five figures in the red.

        And anybody who's employed providing any product or service that's purchased by poor people has a job created by poor people. This talking point is more easily destroyed than even most GOP myths.
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      • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 11, 2012 5:38 pm ET)
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        After my middle-class tribe invades and eats the rich tribe we will all be happier. I love billionaire soaked in wine, served with a fine comptee cheese....mmmmm billionaire!!!
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        • Author by Evangelical Democrat (June 12, 2012 2:17 pm ET)
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          As a non-conservative, I'm smart enough to know that this post doesn't mean you are a cannibal in reality.

          However, I've been saying (and I'm sure I'm not the only one who says this) since before OWS even started that expecting the rich to contribute more in taxes is not class warfare; Class warfare is what is going to happen if we keep letting the wealthy and ultra-conservatives run the country into the ground and destroy the working class. When the increasingly large number of poor and disenfranchised finally rise up and start getting violent and vigilante, and start lynching some of the these greedy right-wing Fu©kers for being the hate-filled greedy liars they are. That is class warfare, and the right-wingers and lying RW media will not like what happens to them.
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          • Author by mjh (June 12, 2012 3:52 pm ET)
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            "When the increasingly large number of poor and disenfranchised finally rise up and start getting violent and vigilante, and start lynching some of the these greedy right-wing Fu©kers for being the hate-filled greedy liars they are. That is class warfare, and the right-wingers and lying RW media will not like what happens to them."



            "It's only 'class warfare' when we fight back."


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    • Author by Spooky Dooooooooood (June 11, 2012 4:15 pm ET)
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      Two more public sector jobs that Rush hates, are the customs officials and the TSA people that checked his bags for contraband and illegal narcotics at the airport on his return flights from the D.R.
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    • Author by 5047 (June 11, 2012 4:18 pm ET)
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      I've actually discussed with Conservatives that, like in smaller counties and cities, volunteers could man our fire and police departments. Good Luck with that idea. I want a professional to respond to my emergencies. It's scary to to hear the rhetoric that these freaks promote.
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      • Author by bintx (June 11, 2012 4:59 pm ET)
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        Most of the smaller towns in our area have volunteer fire departments with only 1-2 trucks. That's fine unless we have the horrid fires like we had last year. In those cases, the VFDs all volunteer to help the folks in the affected areas. Our VFD personnel have weekly training meetings and also undergo pretty strenuous training. Having said that, it costs a lot of money for volunteer fire departments. The people who are utilizing their services will still have to pay for them, one way or another.
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    • Author by MsYellowDog (June 11, 2012 4:33 pm ET)
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      And just what do Limbaugh and others of his ilk "contribute to economic growth?" Anyone?....anyone?....drool....
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    • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (June 11, 2012 4:42 pm ET)
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      Ignorance 101. I thought that was the unofficial title of Fatboy's show.
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    • Author by Turey (June 11, 2012 5:06 pm ET)
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      Sorry Rushie but Ignorance 101 is what you peddle for 3 hours and 4 days a week.
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    • Author by politeradical (June 11, 2012 5:16 pm ET)
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      Saving a factory from burning down isn't helping the economy?

      Police making an area safe for people to shop isn't helping the economy?

      Teachers educating the future workforce doesn't contribute to economic growth?

      "Ignorance 101" would be the garbage you spew every time you open your overfed pie hole. Not that you would know jacks**t about education or public service.
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    • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (June 11, 2012 5:23 pm ET)
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      In this economy, I find it ironic that "conservatives" like to blame Obama for everything. Take your typical "conservative" contractor. For his whole life, he has been skilled with his hands. He is an expert at what he does, remodeling kitchens and bathrooms for homeowners. For years, he would charge top dollar for his services, and business was good enough to earn a comfortable living. In between jobs, he would listen to Fatboy's show, as he travelled from site to site. Our contractor was a long-time listener as well, since the inception of Fatboy's show some 25+ years ago. All that time, the contractor heard Fatboy rail against unions and the public sector. He showed his agreement at the polls as well, voting in anti-union leaders, who looked to stop all the "waste". The contractor was so upset that a public employee could have good benefits and decent pay while he had to do it all on his own. Let them pay their own way, just like he has to, and stop living off his taxes.

      Fast forward to today. That same contractor now works for less than half of what he used to and his quality of life has diminshed as well. New jobs are scarce and he is uncertain of what his future holds for him. He had to sell his RV and boat because he can no longer afford them and his house payments are a struggle to make. He doesn't have health insurance because he can't afford it. The problem isn't Obama. The problem is that this has been a 30 year campaign against unions, starting with Reagan. "Conservatives", like the contractor, bought into the arguments made by Fatboy, Fox News and rest of the willing media that unions serve no purpose other than collecting dues. Breaking up of unions was just part of the "conservative" agenda. They also wanted to create an atmosphere where labor worked longer hours for less pay and benefits were slashed. The private sector was all too willing to follow suit when this happened because that's how the job market operates. The result? People now work longer hours for less pay and less benefits. Unfortunately for our subject, the contractor, this campaign that he supported trickled down to him as well. Where there used to be thousands of people in his town, formerly middle class, there are now only about 100. There's also a few really rich people, who managed to get even richer over the last 30 years, and he has to fight for bids for their jobs and always loses out to the corporate contractor. Where he used to have thousands of potential customers, he now has to fight over a few scraps because only about a 100 people in town can afford to hire him, and many of them may opt to go to Home Depot anyway and probably f--- up the job themselves.

      Oh well! At least those damn unions aren't busy getting entitlements for lazy workers. Be careful what you wish for, "conservative".
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    • Author by RoyRog (June 11, 2012 6:07 pm ET)
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      Perhaps Rush should have first consulted one of his fellow "conservatives" at the Hoover Institution.

      According to CONSERVATIVE economist Eric Hanushek of the Hoover Institution, a quality teacher with a class of 20 students each year will raise the lifetime aggregate earnings of that group of students by more than $400,000.

      As a result quality teachers have an ECONOMIC IMPACT of over $400,000 annually and are well worth their salary, benefits, and pensions.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (June 11, 2012 6:18 pm ET)
         

      SSDD

      Another day, another cup or so of lie-laced spittle drenches the Excrement In Broadcasting microphone.

      Same Schittforbrains, Different Delusions.

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    • Author by the Grey Path (June 11, 2012 6:18 pm ET)
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      Rush's point is that spending by middle class workers does nothing to stimulate an economy.

      Where money is inserted into the economy is irrelevant; the money will circulate.

      Paying middle class workers to do useful work does a couple of things: 1. You get the work done, 2. They spend the money, which goes from the grocery store to the supplier to the factory to the trucker to the farmer to the farming corporation to the ...
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    • Author by Moneyman (June 11, 2012 6:24 pm ET)
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      Anyone with a stable job and a good salary contributes to a market-based economy like ours. So no, you are practicing ignorance 101 by thinking that one part of our economy(Private Sector Jobs) is somehow way more important than another(Public sector jobs). They're ALL important you self-absorbed ass.
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    • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (June 11, 2012 7:45 pm ET)
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      Rush has a degree in economics from the University of Bullfeces.
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      • Author by politeradical (June 11, 2012 9:11 pm ET)
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        Along with minor's in women's studies, black history, medicine and political science.
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      • Author by mjh (June 12, 2012 2:42 am ET)
           
        Rush has a degree in economics from the University of Bullfeces.


        And did postgraduate work at Beck U.

        Hm -- from UB to BU . . .

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    • Author by MerrillFrank (June 12, 2012 1:28 am ET)
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      As usual Rush is talking out of his pyninodal cysted rear. Hiring 4000+ cops here under Dinkins plus under the Clinton era crime bill COPS program that Guiliani supported helped make this city a safer place where the private sector was able to thrive. Sure demographics such as fewer young people between 15-24 helped as well as the waning of the crack trade. Maybe we should fire some of them and let Rush get mugged on the way to the steakhouse.
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    • Author by mjh (June 12, 2012 2:43 am ET)
         
      Limbaugh: The Idea That Police, Teachers, And Firefighters Contribute To Economic Growth Is "Ignorance ... 101"


      Me: the idea that Rush Limpballs contributes to intelligent public discourse is ignorance . . . period.


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    • Author by Evangelical Democrat (June 12, 2012 2:04 pm ET)
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      Actually Rush, anything you say or support is Ignorance 101.

      Please kill yourself. Now.
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    • Author by tman418 (June 13, 2012 9:57 pm ET)
         
      You know, these con-bots seem to forget that public sector institutions don't have to make a profit, and are therefore, usually, more cost effective. And if employees of the public sector make greater salaries and benefits than the average worker of the private sector, then there is just a better reason to have a big public sector economy: more workers earning more money and benefits (that they can spend), and services are cheap and cost effective.
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